A Whatsapp Convo with… Someone who has had an Out-of-Body Experience
I’ve read and come across information online about out of body experiences or OBEs (even from a really young age when I used to avidly buy SpineChiller magazine every week!) but never have I known or spoken to someone that has actually had one. I don’t believe in coincidence so when a wonderful lady from my past reconnected with me recently, I knew there was much more to it and wow, there very certainly was. Today I present to you my Whatsapp conversation with this amazing young woman who has had an out-of-body experience which has completely changed her life – and her story is absolutely incredible. I’m sure there is something to learn for every single person that comes across this blogpost and I hope you approach this with an open mind, heart and soul.
I’m so happy that we found each other again! So, to begin with for the purpose of our readers, can you provide a brief overview of your life up until the point that you had your out-of-body experience and your spiritual awakening?
Sure. So I was born in Pakistan and moved to the UK when I was 7. When I was 13, we found out that my dad had cancer. My dad passed away within the year. Shortly after his death my mum fell ill and I became a young carer at the age of 14. There was so much pressure on my shoulders as I am the only child. Since my father’s death, I suffered from crippling anxiety the point where I couldn’t even leave the house without having panic attacks. I am still my mum’s carer now at the age of 28.
You say you began to suffer from crippling anxiety after your father’s death. Can you explain why you felt this was happening to you at the time?
At the time I didn’t understand why this was happening to me. All I knew was that the world around me was falling apart and I felt so unsafe and frightened of being alive, because since childhood all I’d ever seen was pain and suffering and I used to always think that something bad was going to happen to me. There was so much fear within me that I found it difficult to do even the smallest of things like going for a walk in the park alone. I also had this great fear of losing my mum even though her illness isn’t life threatening; I still felt scared that she was going to die, just like my dad did.
And how did you feel about suddenly having to become a carer for your mum when you were still a child yourself?
Becoming a carer was really hard. I just got on with it but at the same time I felt like I was thrown into the deep end by life and it wasn’t fair. I remember very clearly at the beginning of her illness, my mum couldn’t even move from her bed and I didn’t know how to help her so I ran to my room and started crying instead of trying to help her up. I felt so isolated and alone and there was just so much responsibility on my shoulders.
I’m so sorry that you went through so much so young. Can you tell us how becoming a young carer affected other areas of your life and relationships?
It deeply affected my studies at the time. I missed almost 2 years of school. It was only when I was in Year 10 that I properly went back to school but even then I found it difficult to manage. I didn’t have many friends in school, just the few people I hung out with. I didn’t really open up too much to anyone about what I was going through. The only thing that helped me was sports – I used to love playing football at lunchtime. That was my happy place when I didn’t think about what was going on at home.
Did you have any support from people around you? You were going through so much…
I didn’t have any family support around me, apart from my family in Canada and Pakistan. They visited us quite often and my aunty stayed with us for 6 months after the death of my father. They were there when I needed them the most and I am so grateful for what they’ve done for me and my mum.
I wish I could just give you a big, massive hug! You are such an amazing and strong human, and what you do for your mum is so, so commendable. If it’s okay, can I ask what brought your family to England from Pakistan in the first place?
I remember my dad moved to England when I was 3 and started working here while we stayed with my aunty and her husband in Pakistan. We didn’t have anywhere else to go so they took us in. For 4 years I didn’t see my dad. It was really hard being away from him. He used to call us often from the phone booth for a short amount of time but I felt it wasn’t enough and I missed his presence so much. We finally joined my dad when I was 7. I remember falling asleep at the airport and when I woke up I was in his arms. I was so happy to see him and held on to him so tight.
And what was life like for you as a family before your father got cancer?
Well, my dad was really stressed because we didn’t have enough money. He was working so many jobs trying to earn money for us. My mum got Hepatitis C while in Pakistan, so she was poorly. After dad passed away she got worse and now has multiple illnesses including Rheumatoid Arthritis.
We used to live in Bury and we couldn’t even afford to turn the heating on in winters. All we had was one bed in the living room with a small heater – me and mum used to sleep on the bed while dad slept on the floor. Even during the hard times, my parents tried to not let our circumstances affect me. We didn’t have the money to go out for dinner or anything so we stayed at home most of the time and spent time with each other playing board games like Ludo etc. I loved playing cricket with dad! He was really good and taught me how to play. When I look back at those times, I look at it in a positive way. We didn’t have much but we had each other and that was enough for us.
That’s so beautiful <3. Can you describe what your role as a carer for your mum involved after your father passed away, and even now?
Of course! I would feed her. I had to break everything down like bread into small pieces for her at the very beginning of her illness – and then I also had to do normal everyday things too, like changing her clothes, giving her medications, cleaning her etc. We would get hot food delivered to us everyday by ‘Meals on Wheels’. Some nights she didn’t sleep well so I would sleep in her room so I could keep an eye on her. The only thing she wasn’t comfortable with was me showering her, so her other carers do that.
Now when it’s summer I try to take her out for walks. She is better than before and they recently increased her care hours so carers come every day for a couple of hours. I have more time for myself now.
You’re truly amazing. Moving on a little now, what were you like and what was your life like a while before you had your out of body experience?
My life was a LOT different to what it is now. I had a lot of anxiety, which caved me in. I spent most of my time in my room watching TV shows, playing games and wasting time on social media. I had no sense of purpose. I was fearful of everything and I thought so negatively of the world.
What was your stance on religion or spirituality at that time?
I wasn’t spiritual and I had no interest in it. I used to be so angry, questioning God, if you are real then why would you make me suffer and what is the point of all of this?
To me, religion was just based on fear and restrictions that peoples egos place upon you in order to control you. They are looking for a man in the sky to save them, not realising that everything is within them including God/the Universe/whatever name you want to give this source/energy.
I totally get you. So building up to your out of body experience, what was happening in your life at the time? Was there anything different to what you’ve already told me?
The only thing that was different in my life was that I had met my twin flame. I had a dream about this person coming into my life a few years before it happened and when I met this person it was like I had been hit by a lightning bolt lol. I’m laughing now, but believe me, at the time I wasn’t laughing – it was so painful!
Oh wow! And what is a twin flame? I’ve never heard that term before…
Ah twin flames haha! Twin flames are basically the same soul incarnating here. You have soul mates but they are two different souls, whereas twin flames are one. It can be very intense when you meet them because they mirror everything back to you – even your own shadow. People in the spiritual community call it a blessing, which it is, but it’s also very painful. I had a dream a few years ago about this girl and it felt so real. At the time I didn’t think much of it until I came into contact with her online. There was a really intense pull towards her and then I saw her picture and she looked exactly like the person I had dreamt of a few years before. I didn’t understand it myself until I came across articles about twin flames and this video by Teal Swan.
Wow. I’ll definitely check that out. Now, about the out-of-body experience itself… Can you describe where you were, who was with you and what you were doing when this happened to you?
Soon after meeting my twin flame, everything I was doing shut down on me and I was forced into an awakening. When I first experienced being out-of-body, it was around the end of October 2016 and it was in the evening around 5pm. I was lying down on my bed reflecting on things that were going on around me. I was on my own in my room. All of a sudden there was like a vibration and I just felt my soul lift out of my body and into another place.
Please tell me more about the experience itself… What happened in this other place? What stands out to you?
Like I said, I was awake but I lifted out of my body to this most amazing place. Everything in this place was white and it was really bright but it didn’t hurt my eyes, so I could see everything. There were other beams of light and from my understanding at that time, it felt like they were souls just there without any physical appearance. Then there was one particular light that I was drawn to – it was a bit further up and I dunno how, I either walked or floated to it. As I got closer, I started to see the face of my dad and I felt so much joy. It was like he communicated with me through my mind – it’s like I just knew what he was saying. As soon as he spoke, I instantly came back into my body – it was like a vibration again, I still don’t know how to fully describe it. I was really scared at the beginning because nothing like this has ever happened to me before and I thought I was going insane.
And did it happen again?
Yes, about a week later the same thing happened. This time I was asleep during the night. I ended up in the same place, but this time there were no souls – just white light. When I was there, I felt like I was Home. I felt the unconditional love of something – like something that loves me so, so much. I wanted to stay there forever; there was no pain or fear! I remember opening my eyes and I felt the vibration again and I instantly started saying, “Thank you God for everything. Thank you God for everything” randomly. As soon as I said that, I heard a loud voice in my ear say “Stay positive, keep going” – I looked around the room but there was no one there. I went to my mum’s room but she was asleep. I cried so much because I have never felt so much love in my whole life. That was the day my whole life changed.
Did you tell anyone?
I was scared to tell anyone in fear of people thinking that I was insane or that there was something wrong with me, so I kept it to myself. I know what I saw and felt. It was the most blissful experience I have ever had. Unless you experience this you won’t understand or know what it feels like!
Thank you so much for sharing this with me. It sounds incredible and I pray we all end up in that beautiful place one day. How did these experiences impact and change your life?
After having these experiences I started to see the world differently and all of my fears went overnight. There was something that changed within me that night. I understand now that we are all connected and we are just separated by egos. I am not scared of anything anymore and I know I am a spiritual being having this human experience – I have absolutely no doubt about that. I am not scared of death either.
It took a few months to let all of this new information sink in and during this time I went through a lot of inner healing processes which was really painful because all of the wounds that I suppressed over the years came up for me to heal. Somehow I just knew within me that whatever I am experiencing right now is part of the process and just to surrender to it. I felt at peace even though I was in a lot of pain.
It impacted my life in so many positive ways. I began to do things that before I had been afraid of doing before. I just started studying; I met lots of lovely people; I am going out to more social events without any fear. I literally turned vegetarian overnight and more importantly I am playing sports again! After my father’s death, I stopped playing any kind of sports.
The experience didn’t fix all my problems and it doesn’t mean it gives me an easy ride in life, but when I go through challenges I just know that it will pass and that I have unlimited support around me. All I have to do is ask.
That’s all so beautiful, I am so happy for you! <3 Finally, if there is a message you could share with the world after having this experience, what would it be?
Don’t be afraid of anything – especially going within yourself, even if it’s a painful process. You have unlimited support around you from the Universe, from Angels and all the Masters that have come and gone, so ask them for help and don’t be afraid to talk to them. You have free will so you have to give them the permission to intervene, otherwise they won’t. Just because you can’t see them in this physical world, it doesn’t mean they are not there for you. You are here to learn and expand your soul so any challenges you are facing will pass and you will grow even stronger from them.
From this whole experience I have learnt that you don’t need to be in any particular religion to go to Heaven. Our souls are connected to each other and ultimately to the Source of all things. Everyone is spiritually connected to it, it just depends how aware you are and how much you are willing to open up to this energy. The more you open up, the more it will reveal itself to you. Your soul has no gender or race etc., so whether you are black, white, gay, straight etc. it doesn’t make any difference to God! They’re all just labels that we have in this physical reality. Don’t be afraid to be who you are because there is no such thing as ‘God hates this’ and ‘God hates that’. Live your life without any fear and watch how it flows for you. When hard times arrive, just trust in the process and have faith that it will pass because it will. Stay positive and keep going. 🙂
That’s so beautiful – what an absolute honour for being given the privilege of hearing your story and being able to pass it further. Thank you so, so much. Xxx
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To read my Whatsapp convo with a queer Muslim, click here.